Text label with forced carriage return

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Text label with forced carriage return

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On Manual designer, inserting Japanese/ English mixed text in text label makes unexpected carriage return.

1) Create text label
2) Set font as "meiryo" , and language set as Japanese. Word wrap is ON.
3) Type (or copy and paste) sample text:
Sample software は、幾多の賞に輝くプロジェクト管理ソフトウェアの最新バージョンです。

4) carriage return occurs after the word "software".
But if you shorten the sample text as following, carriage return doesn't happen.
Sample software は、幾多の賞に輝くプロジェクト管理ソフトウェアの

I suppose that this bug is related to KATAKANA handling in the software, since all プロジェクト, ソフトウェア and バージョン are KATAKANA.
(I think that if KATAKANA words comes three times, it happens)
If you have any clue to avoid this, please kindly let us know.

Thank you very much for your kind help!
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Re: Text label with forced carriage return

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Izumi-San,

are you using the Meiryo package that comes with Vista and Windows 7 or did you aquire the font package (for example from Ascender)?

Also, which version of the Meiryo font are you using?
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Re: Text label with forced carriage return

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Hi Yuhiko,

I just tested this and as far as I can see this isn't a carriage return. It is simply a "word" break in a text label box that is too narrow to hold all the text on one line. The Japanese text is being treated as a single word because it contains no spaces, and so it is breaking at the boundary between the Japanese and European text.
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Re: Text label with forced carriage return

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Hi Tim,
Thank you very much for your investigation. Now I see that it's a feature.
Then let me add to wish list; please add "ignore word break (for Asian languages/ double byte characters mixed text") option, or please modify Japanese (or double-byte characters') internal treatment.

Especially in software manual, it is very common to mix European language (product name etc.) with Japanese or double-byte characters...

P.S.
I use Meiryo font bundled with Windows Vista.
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Tim,

for a bit more clarification on the text is probaly formatted to use the Japanese language rules for word/line breaks instead of English rules. The rulebooks are very different and don't mix well. Below is an example on how this can be fixed in PowerPoint 2007 (I know its not help and manual, but it might point you in the right direction)

Option "Allow Latin text to wrap in the middle of a word"


In PowerPoint 2007:

•Go to Start | Programs | Office | Microsoft Office Tools | Microsoft Office 2007 Language Settings.
•Choose Japanese and add it to "enabled languages."
•Then start PowerPoint, open your file, and choose the text box in question.
•Go to Home | Paragraph | click the icon in the lower right corner of the Paragraph group to open the Paragraph formatting dialog box.
•Go to the Asian Typography tab of the Paragraph dialog box.
•Remove the checkmark next to "Allow Latin text to wrap in the middle of a word."
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Hi Uwe,

As always, thanks for the great information on this. I've passed it on to the programming team. :)
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